As the topic stated that this discussion is about the 3 Machine Emperor Infinity Arch type in current Yugioh 5ds season.

- First thought, i know everyone will probably think they will not be out in real life, coz it takes 5 cards to become one. However, this morning as i searched it in Wikia, surprisingly, OCG has already released them in Promo series, images updated as follow:

- There are currently only 4 cards released in OCG for this archtype.
1. Machine Emperor Wisel Infinity:

Spoiler:

Name: Machine Emperor Wisel Infinity
Level: 1
ATK//DEF: 2500//2500
Types: Machine//Effect
Attribute: DARK
Effect:This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn, you can equip 1 face-up Synchro Monster your opponent controls to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Synchro Monsters equipped to this card by its own effect. Other monsters you control cannot declare an attack. Once per turn, you can negate the activation of an opponent's Spell Card and destroy it.

2. Machine Emperor Skiel Infinity:

Spoiler:

Name: Machine Emperor Skiel Infinity
Level: 1
ATK//DEF: 2200//2200
Types: Machine//Effect
Attribute: WIND
Effect:This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn, you can equip 1 face-up Synchro Monster your opponent controls to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Synchro Monsters equipped to this card by its own effect. Other monsters you control cannot declare an attack. Also, you can send 1 Monster equipped to this card to the Graveyard. If you do, this card can attack your opponent directly this turn.

3. Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity:

Dark Hole then a 4000 beat stick in early game?

Spoiler:

Name: Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity
Level: 1
ATK//DEF: 0//0
Types: Machine//Effect
Attribute: EARTH
Effect:This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. This card gains ATK and DEF equal to half of your Life Points. Once per turn, you can equip 1 face-up Synchro Monster your opponent controls to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Synchro Monsters equipped to this card by its own effect. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can select and Special Summon 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card to your side of the field in face-up Defense Position.

4. Imperial Machine Castle:

Spoiler:

Name: Imperial Machine Castle
Types: Field Spell
Effect:Face-up "Machine Emperor" monsters you control cannot be targeted by the effects of Synchro Monsters. When this card on the field is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard, you can add 1 "Machine Emperor" monster from your Deck to your hand.

*Personal Opinion: OMG!!! If they are in OCG as real card, that means they will sooner or later be in TCG as promo !! There is no other word i can describe them but "BROKEN" If they are gonna release in TCG, absolutely everyone will get their hand at least 1 copy each type or for me, i will run 6 of them !!the blue one is crap compare to the other two . meh, The future yugioh is no longer resolve around "destroy" But it resolves around "remove" REMOVING a card ftw !!!

similarity:
- All three of them is lvl 1, which is easy for synchro
- All three can be special summon from hand when there is face-up monster on your field being destroyed by card effect (including your cards)
- *All three of them have an ATK based of more than 2000!!!
- All three can absorb face-up synchro monsters (not limited to 1 equip only)though once per turn,



~~~~~~Reference:www.yugioh.wikia.com ~~~~~~

Wow how pro. So many monsters are going to start special summoning from the hand randomly now its insane. Gorz started this new trend and these guys take it to the next level.

lets start discuss them!,
Which one do you think is the most "broken" out of three and state your reason why ?

imo three of them also broken

Now they really are what I call as god cards

Offensive-wise, Machine Emperor Grannel Infinity is definitely broken. It can go up to 4000 ATK in early turn :/ Even if you drew it late, if your opponent is synchro-based deck, you can pretty much steal it every turn >_> Oh yeah, not to mention that he's the only one that still allows your other monsters to attack.

Control-wise, Machine Emperor Wisel Infinity is like a better-version of Horus LV8. Easier to summon, more versatile, and ofc, synchro-killer.

Skiel is not that good though, it's only good against synchro-based deck. Their support is a meh >_<

If I have to choose, I like Grennel better.

Btw, they are really good combined with Six Samurai deck. One SS deck teched with 1 Wisel won in a sanctioned Philippine tourney...

these are insanely good
equip with opti camo and absorb one of your opponent synchro monster and most likely gg

very nice effects. I'm really waiting those cards.

Your kidding right Konami isn't THAT stupid.. Are They???

I mean these effects are so game changing that it is hardly believable....

I guarantee you these will be banned or at the very least limited!

if they do not hit the banlist, i will cut my xxxx ^^

anyway, i din notice that grannel won't stop your monster to attack !_! totally broken...

@ Chrono please more positive. xD Don't give ideas to KONAMI. xD

@Chrono: If they limit, then you have to consider how many of them they're are. I would assume all ban except for 1 limited.

Hopefully not Grannel (Special Summoning opponent's Synchros? Zomg) or wisel (negate Spells? D:), but then again, you do have Skeil with direct atks... geez, all too broken. If anything, it'll probably be Wisel.

wow if u can get all 3 of them onto the field itsd pretty much gg

Konami was stupid enough not to do anything to sabers so anything is possible. But like Gorz and Tragoedia i can see the limit hammer hitting some of these guys quite soon.

Like Det said, Konami is not thinking like we are.

I mean, why limit Monster Reborn in the DSF format, ban it in the next one, and then limit it together with Dark Hole in this format? Thanks god they at least banned Heavy Storm.

Anyways, these guys might not get hit at all, you never know. Like Det said, Sabers didn't get hit at all, if you don't count the kitty.

Anywayz, I personally like the first and the last guy. Pretty awesome

Agreed with Stef, if these cards ever make it to TCG or KCVDS, at least one of em might be main decked.

~~~Supreme_King~~~

^And that would be Grennel 3>

Wow... Seems pretty good. At first glance they seems a tad situational, but honestly, not so much in this format with dark hole, 3 brd, mirror force, torrential tribute, scrap dragons, rykos, and smashings being spammed like crazy. I'm kind of curious if they'll be pure tech like gorz and trag, or if people will build whole deke around them

agree with Finas, lolz i already ordered 3 OCG grannel from ebay. We play OCG in my country, and i proxy tested. THEY ARE BROKEN LOLZ, -> give and take, give them your goyo, then snake deity my naga and his 2 face-down then i pop grannel and get his goyo, + a thunder king from my hand and while was calculating 4000 + 2800 + 1900 = ??? he scooped .-.

LOLz, all your six samurai monsters can be destroyed by their own effect* to help other. >.> they atk, you destroy something else, then pop grannel or wisel => +1000% advantage lolz Not to mention the up coming Star strike Blast has support for six-samurai >.> OMG and the second wave of six samurai archtype -> True- Six samurai.

~press here to view my post about six-samurai~~~Link

Crazy cards >.< I think it'll be nerfed though... maybe.

I just thought maybe you could use a Life Gain deck with Granel for a OTK?

I mean Its not hard to get to 16k LP
16000/2=8000

And his summoning condition is so ridiculously easy to accomplish that getting him out is no problem.

+ with that 0 attack he is search-able by nearly ANYTHING...