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    Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:41 pm


    (I was suppose to make a room like 4 days ago shh...)
    Welcome to my room. It is just a optical illusion it is not really that big. <.< >.>

    Wait there is no bed?

    Obviously beds are overrated and a waste of money.

    Refrigerator?
    Pshh take out is much better than a crappy refrigerator.

    Where is the door?
    There is not door. Doors are irrelevant only secret tunnels for this girl :3 .

    But if you look closely there is totally a door on the side of the pic.
    Nope that is magical gateway to the outside of the world and the inside of the room. Obviously... You are SOO dumb, you are really dumb, fo' real!

    o.o...

    *Random guy enters the room*
    Who are you talking to?

    <.<
    >.>
    Myself..
    O....
    *Guy leaves*
    Sigh I have that effect on all men D:
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Rand on Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:00 pm

    you do? I doubt that. dont have that effect on me. o and welcome and such.
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:14 am

    But you don't know me so that is a unfair assumption.
    O yea I just sounded like a smart person :3
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Rand on Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:26 am

    Indeed well done. But you see I'm still here. or perhaps i am mistaken and i never was here?
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:43 am

    Well i'm about to really philosophical for a sec here. So be prepare in be mindraped...

    Now base on current knowledge you assume your in "my room" . But bases all scientific law this concept of being in the same room as some one else is physically impossible. Because as we first learn that everything is made of an atom is the basic for everything right? So therefore every would have to have subatomic atoms protons , neutrons , electrons. What we need is that Electron are all negative correct? So if every made has these electron which typically are on the outside of the atom. Should everything should repeal in opposite direction but what is amazing that is does not. Now there is the Pauli principle in which that electron have a something called the spin number. Which basically says that electron with opposites axis so they created a false sense of attraction. BUT! Assume that electron are 3D and axis are switched to created this false sense of opposite why wouldn't the moves in a circular direction moving just around the Z axis. So if this was true when electron would not have the ability the move at all. Now atoms are not solid because supposedly all electron are moving at the sightly slower then the speed of light because they are not in a vacuum of course.

    So what is your point Val?
    My point that in theory we are made of many suppose energy spheres which split would cause a nuclear explosion . If we are made of many energy mass then aren't just basically forms of complex forms of energy. Now changing topic when you see something your brain deceivers it into a something that you can see. So your eyes can seeing a true definition of pure energy in walking mass. And each person is moving about the speed of energy if we are made of the atoms. So basically you have been moving around the world in a circular motion around the world and reappearing the in the same place so it would be appeared but in reality you really you were never there so you never been in my room. You just think you have.

    :3
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Chrono on Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:48 am

    STOP IT! My brain hurts!
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by BERKAY on Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:06 pm

    Welcome miss. I'm glad there is one more person which thinks science, esspacially chemistry is like magic. Nature really big and there is more and more things we'll search.

    Again welcome Miss. Modern Atom Theory. Wink Welcome Miss Pauli and welcome again Miss Sharp, Principal, Diffuse and Miss Fundamentel. Wow it's interesting you have many names. Smile
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Solymero on Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:34 pm

    OMG! THIS HAS GOT TO BE THE WEIRDEST ROOM INTRO I'VE EVER SEEEN!! ,,oops forgot to turn capslock , anyways, u as a lazy fellow must know how it is hard to rewrite all what have passed (in other words I AINT GONNA WRITE IT AGAIN!)... WoW I've gotten so off topic , I was only entering your room to say HI xD...
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:45 pm

    @Chrono
    You have officially been mind raped. How does it feel?

    @BERKAY
    OMG someone interested in science besides me :O. This can not be....
    And thanks your the welcome.

    @Solymero
    Konichiwa :3
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    Post by BERKAY on Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:07 pm

    THere is one more person named Tyann. I guees he interested too. Your welcome Wink
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:52 pm

    :O!
    Tyann is the person that introduced me to the site.
    Weird...
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Rand on Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:10 pm

    Valerie wrote:Well i'm about to really philosophical for a sec here. So be prepare in be mindraped...

    Now base on current knowledge you assume your in "my room" . But bases all scientific law this concept of being in the same room as some one else is physically impossible. Because as we first learn that everything is made of an atom is the basic for everything right? So therefore every would have to have subatomic atoms protons , neutrons , electrons. What we need is that Electron are all negative correct? So if every made has these electron which typically are on the outside of the atom. Should everything should repeal in opposite direction but what is amazing that is does not. Now there is the Pauli principle in which that electron have a something called the spin number. Which basically says that electron with opposites axis so they created a false sense of attraction. BUT! Assume that electron are 3D and axis are switched to created this false sense of opposite why wouldn't the moves in a circular direction moving just around the Z axis. So if this was true when electron would not have the ability the move at all. Now atoms are not solid because supposedly all electron are moving at the sightly slower then the speed of light because they are not in a vacuum of course.

    So what is your point Val?
    My point that in theory we are made of many suppose energy spheres which split would cause a nuclear explosion . If we are made of many energy mass then aren't just basically forms of complex forms of energy. Now changing topic when you see something your brain deceivers it into a something that you can see. So your eyes can seeing a true definition of pure energy in walking mass. And each person is moving about the speed of energy if we are made of the atoms. So basically you have been moving around the world in a circular motion around the world and reappearing the in the same place so it would be appeared but in reality you really you were never there so you never been in my room. You just think you have.

    :3

    by your interesting reasoning I am both entering and exiting your room continuously. which means i am here and i was here and i will be here. forever? also you forgot protons which have a positive charge which counteract the charge of the neutron. also the small and large nuclear force which keeps them together.

    also protons neutrons and electrons are not energy spheres. they are not spheres at all they are just a point with a mass. also if we were circling the earth at a high speed cont how would we avoid encountering other photons and seeing only the ones from your room right now?
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Chrono on Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:50 pm

    Well technically we are moving CONSTANTLY but at the same time we are stationary.

    Because the earth rotates and you are on this giant spinning rock so it is not like we aren't moving.

    Also I am surprised she didn't go into vibrations and frequency's that would of been a interesting mind rape!
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:37 am

    @Rand


    by your interesting reasoning I am both entering and exiting your room continuously. which means i am here and i was here and i will be here. forever?

    Well sorta kinda. You are circling the earth constantly as all times but due the laws of conservation of energy the energy will be transfer into the friction and air resistance. And would lead to the less energy in the body that you cant be get back so it causes you to aging.



    also you forgot protons which have a positive charge which counteract the charge of the neutron. also the small and large nuclear force which keeps them together

    Well neutron don't counteract the charge of protons because neutron have a neutral charges so they are basically places holders in the nucleus. The electron counteracted the charged of the proton. But i this impossible to certain extend. Because the proton and electron CANT counteracted each other because they don't have the same amount of energy to counteracted each other. This has to be true because if every proton and electron had the same charge all the protons and electron would be in the nucleus forms a dense ball of energy. Which does not happen. That would also lead to that there is more negative energy than positive energy because the electron on the outside of the atom have the most freedom and do that electron do.
    But Valerie that would mean there are not enough electron to make up the entire body move?
    That is false BECAUSE of the wave particle duality theory states that electron can moves as a wave along with a bunch of other stuff. And So in theory you see humans because of the electron reaction with visible light. So basically there is domino effect when a electron hits another electron they comes moving because there is not air resistance in the from atom to atom so the effect so the body moves in a circler movement.

    also if we were circling the earth at a high speed cont how would we avoid encountering other photons and seeing only the ones from your room right now?

    So probably do see the one around the world but it is probably your brain cant register it to make a images. And to avoid massive motion sicken your brain uses the reference point of what your looking to make that the images you see. And i didn't say protons neutrons and electrons were sphere. I said that atom was in the shape of a sphere but a not a sphere if that makes sense?

    OMG i'm so tired D; if something is wrong in thou statement please tell me i'm like half asleep so yea
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    Post by Rand on Sat Oct 23, 2010 3:25 am

    The charge of the electron is about -1.60217733 x 10-19 C, the charge of the proton is equal and opposite to that of the electron. also they dont stick together because they are like you said moving extremely fast and orbit the nucleus instead of sticking to the protons.
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    Post by Hyorinmaru on Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:09 am

    *Oh my god!! *head explodes* imagining all of this* Well then I guess we all have something in common.. Science nerds xDD... Welcome to the dorm.. BTW there is a party in my room and everyone is welcome... I don't feel like posting the link here so just go to my room Hyorinmaru's Room..
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:09 am

    @Rand

    My answer to your question/statement it 2 words

    Quantum Tunneling
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by BERKAY on Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:29 pm

    I'm suprising what you guys learn in school. It's not head explodes. In Turkey, Science Department Students in High School have to learn those knowledges. :S
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Sat Oct 23, 2010 2:52 pm

    Well actually my school didn't teach me this well to this depth. They like barely scratch the surface of it. Most of my knowledge probably came from Wikipedia honestly. AND DON'T GIVE ME THAT CRAP THAT WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A GOOD SOURCE! And yes caps were necessary.
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Stef on Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:56 pm

    Wow, seems like I forgot to post my welcome Razz

    Ok, I'll say some random comments for each of your posts now because I'm bored xD

    1) I see an Antoine Dodson quote in that intro... xD Also, yay for overrated beds and Fabled Grimro! Razz When someone comes in your room you should have a remote button that closes that portal so he can't escape, and he'll have to stay inside. That sounds creepy though, and he'll sue you as soon as he gets out xP

    2) I understood most of the first part, after that there were several syntax mistakes and I couldn't really understand what you were trying to say. So I'll ask 2 questions for the first part : 1) Why wouldn't electrons be able to move if they moved around the Z axis? 2) If atoms are not solid when not in vacuum, then nothing can be solid while in the atmoshpere. Most probably you meant something else with what you said and I got it wrong due to the syntax mistakes.

    About the second part, we are not pure energy. We are made of atoms, and atoms = matter. Also, what our eyes see is the interractions of light with matter. I could not undestand the rest because you did several spelling and syntax mistakes here too. However I think you were talking about quantum physics, and you're practically saying that we are not "somewhere", but "everywhere", or in other words, in more than 2 places simultaneously.

    3) With this I confirmed that you're talking about quantum mechanics. However, quantum mechanics are concepts and theories, you cannot use them and combine them with classic physics, because most probably that would cause many theories of the classic physics result impossible. Therefore what you're saying is just a theory.

    4) They do teach advanced physics in school, but what you're talking about is quantum physics, which is taught in the last classes or even in university.

    I guess people told you many times that wikipedia is not a good source. The reasons you're angry about this may be :

    1) Someone heard that somwhere and told you that but didn't understand why.
    2) You misunderstood what someone told you.

    Wikipedia CANNOT be counted as a valid/trusted source when writing an essay or something like that. The reason is that anyone can edit Wikipedia, making the content not absolutely true. It may be biased and/or influenced by a specific piece of people in our community which will most likely give biased information. (For example, you cannot fully trust information about Buddhism that a Christian priest gave you. I'm not saying he'll necessarily lie or distort the information he gave you, but if you're writing an important research that you want to release on an imoprtant and serious culture magazine you can't use a source that is most likely biased.)

    However, for learning purposes, I believe Wikipedia will do just fine, I enjoy reading random stuff about science/culture/phsycology/etc on wikipedia. I believe it enriches someones knowledge, making more aware of pretty much anything going on in the world. People in the past were so easily maneuvered by smarter people because they couldn't learn things and increase their knowledge. Even if you're really smart, without some knowledge you can't reach your full potential.


    Anyways I wrote too much. I am a big fan of science too, nice to meet ya Razz I'm still 14 years old so I still haven't learned all these things in school and that's why I may be wrong in some, if not many, cases. ALl I know comes from my brother (which has higher level physics in the IB program), Wikipedia and some basic things from school.




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    Post by BERKAY on Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:12 pm

    She speaks only about quatum psysics. Smile And what a clean room. Sorry miss. Smile
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    Post by Valerie on Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:19 pm

    @Stef
    im have a something to go to so im going to make a short post. First of all i never said this was not a theroy actually i think i said in theroy like 10 times so in case not everyone understood that all this is a theroy so you are correct about that. Now the spin of the electron is a conversational (or something like that) cuz right now it is under testing by some in boston i think or something that. But electron are not solid to my knowledge BUT when they comes into contact with another electron they create this false sense of oppositeness (which is probably not a word) now they it supposely filp upside down so the south pole of the electron and meet the north pole of the other electron. But i disagree with that statement which is somewhere in my orignal theroy. And your statement about how atom make matter which is true. BUT if i have a take something like H20 and broke it down to atom it is still energy. So if everything is matter and that atoms are energy and atom make up everything that are atoms then isnt everything energy then?
    And thank you for agreeing that wikipedia is amazing sources for science
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    Post by Stef on Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:24 pm

    Well, as I told you I have some kind of problem (or at least I don't have this kind of talent) when reading posts that are not clearly written in near-perfect English so I get confused and skip some words, or even phrases, without noticing Razz Anyways, I just wanted to point out that it was a theory, in case somebody didn't understand that.

    Now, for your new post :

    Still a bit confusing, especially the last phrase, but I'll try to comment from what I think understood.

    Electrons have a negative charge, therefore 2 electrons should repulse each other since they have the same charge (negative). Also, when you say they are not "solid", you mean they are not matter, or are you talking about their state (solid, liquid, gas)? If you mean they are not matter, I'll have to disagree with you. If we think of the mass-energy equivalence concept (E=mc^2), then something that has energy also has a mass, and if it has a mass it is matter. Also, we already know that electrons have mass, even though it's approximately 1/1836 that of the proton.

    Also, could you give me a link to where you read these things about the poles of electrons? Because I'm pretty sure they don't have poles Razz

    And last but not least :

    You disagreed with me in your last statement and gave me a reason. However I'll have to disagree with the reason you disagreed with me Razz

    If you have matter, no matter how many times you cut it into smaller units of matter, it still remains matter. Atoms are a unit of matter, and also have energy. Therefore, everything that is made of... matter is also energy, but it's not pure energy like you said. It's both matter AND energy.

    For example, a wall of bricks is made of atoms (matter), therefore it also is energy. If you run towards it, you will get hit. That's because even if it has energy, it still remains matter. Though there are so many theories and concepts that can prove that if you run into a wall you will pass through it or stuff like that. The only thing I know is that if I run into a wall I will get hurt, therefore I know that that wall... exists xD

    Now I got confused with what I said too Razz I am not implying in any way that everything I say is correct, I'm just saying what I know.
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:05 am



    Spin Stuff

    Matter is energy and Energy is matter.
    Basically that is the best way to put it.
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    Re: Valerie's room(Too lazy for a creative name)

    Post by Valerie on Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:11 am



    Spin stuff

    Im just going to say that Energy is matter.
    And Matter is energy.

    Hooray for short post Very Happy

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