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    final countdown vs cold wave

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    Post by Yuri Bakura Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:40 am

    DAMN HARD !!! Final count down 19/20 and one more turn is 20/20. During 19 turn, it is my turn, i activate cold wave. And then it is opponent turn, means it is 20/20 but cold wave effect prevent it from activate right ?

    and then, after cold wave finish, final countdown will not activate his effect again right ?
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    Post by Tyann Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:49 am

    Cold Wave is only negating Prohibit all the activation of spell/trap and make both player cannot use or even set it during your main phase 1 until your standby phase (if u activate it).... If there are some spell card/ trap card that have been activated it before your opponent activated his/her cold wave, so da effect of those spell/trap cannot be negated and still works as it properly effect.....
    It means your Countdown still works even your opponent activate Cold Wave, because cold wave doesnt negate but only ban you and your opponent to activate a spell/trap and set them to each player field.

    Correct me if i wrong...... maybe, iam just wanna help without looking at yugio.wiki (too lazy to open it now)
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    Post by Yuri Bakura Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:10 am

    cold wave can negate continous effect >.< like messenger of peace
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    Post by Ruby Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:02 am

    Cold Wave cannot negate the effects of either Gold Sacro or Final Countdown
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    Post by FinasLionheart Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:08 am

    Cold Wave cannot prevent lingering effects Wink
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    Post by Yuri Bakura Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:15 am

    can he stop the countdown ? until the cold wave duration finish ?
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    Post by DanceJonDance Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:21 am

    No Cold Wave can't negate Final Countdown.
    COLD WAVE:
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    This card can only be activated at the start of your Main Phase 1. Until your next turn, you and your opponent cannot play or Set any Spell or Trap Cards.
    FINAL COUNTDOWN:
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    Pay 2000 Life Points. After 20 turns have passed (counting the turn you activate this card as the 1st turn), you win the Duel.

    What cold wave does is prevent your opponent from playing/setting spell or trap cards; it doesn't negate anything ad it doesn't prevent cards from being activated. Now if your opponent has a face up Final Countdown it means that the card was already activated (in your situation 19 turns ago) and is not negated by Cold Wave because cold wave doesn't negate anything it just prevents you from playing cards.

    Activation of spell/traps come after they are played, and in the case of some spells after a certain cost is paid.

    The effect of final countdown is activated when the spell is played and a 2000 life point cost is paid. Having the card stay on the field for 20 turns is not a cost so when cold wave is activated before the 20th turn the card doesn't activate because it already activated 19 turns ago, and it stayed active because like Finas said it's a lingering effect.
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    Post by FinasLionheart Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:29 am

    Just to be clear what can be done by Cold Wave:
    1. No Spell or Trap can be set into the field
    2. No Spell or Trap Card Activation
    3. No Spell or Trap Effect Activation if the Spell or Trap has been already face-up on the field before the activation of Cold Wave

    The countdown and the winning part in Final Countdown are not effect activation. They are just Final Countdown effect being resolved, hence why it's lingering effect and cannot be prevented by Cold Wave Smile
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    Post by DanceJonDance Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:38 am

    FinasLionheart wrote:
    3. No Spell or Trap Effect Activation if the Spell or Trap has been already face-up on the field before the activation of Cold Wave

    Just an example since Yuri seems to be confused over continuos traps/spells.

    Some continuos traps/spells require a cost in order to activate their effects even though they are already face-up on the field. One example of this would be Royal Oppression which requires you to pay 800 LP in order to negate a special summon or the effect of a card that special summons a monster.

    Other continuous traps/spells don't require a cost to activate. They activate the moment they are played such as Royal Decree and their effects are not negated by cold wave.

    Lastly, some continuous traps/spells require a cost in order to activate, but once the cost is paid and the card is active their effects lingers such as Final Coutndown which requires 2000 life points to activate, and once the cost is paid and the card is active cold wave cannot negate it.
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    Post by Crescent Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:32 pm

    Great answers. Topic Locked.

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